NHMS Cheap Date

With all due respect to those entering into this discussion.
I would not consider any of you(Doc, Jake, Greg, Dave and Andy) regulars at NHMS.
Whatever your reasons for going elsewhere you are welcome to them, I have a large group that consider it home. Personally, I see no reason to make the trip to NJMP.
As for LRP, we all work very hard to avoid conflicts there, all of our tracks are effected by LRP events, even their pro events.
 
ner88 said:
With all due respect to those entering into this discussion.
I would not consider any of you(Doc, Jake, Greg, Dave and Andy) regulars at NHMS.
Whatever your reasons for going elsewhere you are welcome to them, I have a large group that consider it home. Personally, I see no reason to make the trip to NJMP.
As for LRP, we all work very hard to avoid conflicts there, all of our tracks are effected by LRP events, even their pro events.
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It's because we are looking at this from a Divisional perspective and you are looking at it through NER-glasses.

People who stay at just NHMS do so because it's close, cheap and a good value. They have no ambition to run for points, just to run a few races.

We know NER can stand on it's own with it's own 2-track series that is populated by people who mostly run NHMS exclusively.
 
I've got the right glasses on Andy, you're missing the point.
There will always be a few chasing points but my responsibility is to the region not the less loyal points chasers.
When or if the division starts controlling the regional events I will walk away, we will all lose because it can't and won't be done fairly.
 
ner88 said:
I've got the right glasses on Andy, you're missing the point.
There will always be a few chasing points but my responsibility is to the region not the less loyal points chasers.
When or if the division starts controlling the regional events I will walk away, we will all lose because it can't and won't be done fairly.
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Actually Jerry, I didn't say you had the 'wrong' galsses on, just NER-glasses - and that is fine.

The point is, and always will, be that we as drivers can only go to so many races. You are responsible for NER and that is fine but when you have competing event weekends. Simple.
 
Dave! what are you referring to??? is there a race at a different track with that kind of ITB population coming up on 9/11-12? Inquiring minds............???
 
it's actually this weekend, Labor Day. It's the big race at Summit. A traditional big deal. Test day, and three races, I went last year, it was pretty cool. Long tow for us, but the amount of track time amortized that aspect.

I can't go this year (no motor and a wedding) but it's good stuff. Dave set a record last year on Sat, but it was broken Sun by Tristian Herbert. Ever seen a Firearrow? They have TWO, LOL.
 
Jerry, I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong nor do I think Summit is hurting nhms. Just giving Tim a hard time. The summit event is great! Wish you were here Jake!! Well over 300 registered.
 
gran racing said:
Jerry, I'm not saying you are doing anything wrong nor do I think Summit is hurting nhms. Just giving Tim a hard time. The summit event is great! Wish you were here Jake!! Well over 300 registered.
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Sounds awesome. Next time I want to bring a good car ....
 
ner88 said:
With all due respect to those entering into this discussion.
I would not consider any of you(Doc, Jake, Greg, Dave and Andy) regulars at NHMS.
Whatever your reasons for going elsewhere you are welcome to them, I have a large group that consider it home. Personally, I see no reason to make the trip to NJMP.
As for LRP, we all work very hard to avoid conflicts there, all of our tracks are effected by LRP events, even their pro events.
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Actually Jerry up until this season I think I only missed 1 regional at NHMS in the last 5 years. A bunch of them I double dipped on too. You are right everyone has a myriad of reasons to go to, or not go to a race. I do agree that some of the formats we run at NHMS are great....I wish other regions would do the same. But, at the end of the day, for me, it's also about the track, and I just think NHMS can't compete with true road courses. While I respect that you see no reason to go to NJMP, it is hands down a better track (both are for that matter) than NHMS....unarguable.


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I know most of you were regulars at NHMS for a long time and now you have found a new place to play.
But, evertime someone questions race counts someone says too many races or conflicts.
Yet, I continue to monitor entries and see very few crossovers.
Unless NJMP closes I don't expect to see some of you at NHMS.
For NER to cancel or avoid all events makes no sense.
You will still not come to NHMS on an off weekend or put it on your schedule.
So, we will continue to schedule events carefully and a large number of racers will come.
See you all at LRP in October:D
 
OK, enough of the politcal scheduling stuff....we are a week out...who's coming?
I heard a rumor of an actual honest-to-God party scheduled? With like, music and stuff too? Wow....where did that come from? (I like, I like...)

And what the hell is "hummish"?
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You mean Mark "Hummmisshhhh" Sobel, if he is in charge of the party it will be a good one, I can hear the stories now......

I heard the same thing and also got an invite to come up and flag. Would love to but actually have a Saturday set aside to work on my racecar, be there for the JRRC.
 
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For NER to cancel or avoid all events makes no sense.
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Jerry, this is the case for several regions and not just NER. I view regions and how they operate similar to a franchise. They all are part of the bigger corporation, but are in no doubt in competition with each other sometimes, too often, shoot each other in the foot. The New England area (not saying NER region specifically) has quite a few regions and tracks. It is quite difficult the way things are organized to manage everything, deal with politics and egos, and run it all well.
 
dtanthon said:
You mean Mark "Hummmisshhhh" Sobel, if he is in charge of the party it will be a good one, I can hear the stories now......

I heard the same thing and also got an invite to come up and flag. Would love to but actually have a Saturday set aside to work on my racecar, be there for the JRRC.
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Oh, ok, I was afraid we would be fed bagels with some sort of green stuff smeared all over them instead...or wait...isn't that 'hummus'?
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Well this will be a party weekend so be prepared! There is the usual BBQ for Cheap Date and there will be a band - all under the canopy that is near start finish in the infield.
Then there is the Hummisshh party. So as not to interfer with the band the Hummisshh party is near NASCAR 2. Movies, munchies, drink (bring some of your favorite) The theme is heaven and hell! Heck some of us will have "theme" outfits on. I will be completely out of character and go for the hell portion, Use your imagination. May be a bit too much for some children (no not as bad as the old Cheap Date). Everyone is invited and it will start after the BBQ and some of the music. One of the last parties we had at NHMS was a Toga party! Now that was not to be missed! Got questions ask away!

Marianne
 
I've got two garages reserved at NHMS this weekend, #20 and 21. Won't be using them. Anyone want them, or should I release 'em back to the track?

PM me.

GA
 
So I'm stuck here at work until late afternoon. Perfect conditions to set a track record right now! Anyone out there wired in to give an update?
 
Ok... quick update and the beer/sleepy meter is working in the direction that it should.

Looks like props to Dan Sheppard in IT-7 winning out the weekend and taking the NER points in style (big style) with one set of tires for the year... niiiiiice....

Props to Step van why Funk who did the ITC NER points championship.... niiiiice...

Late news: There will be either a 435lb addition to Blanscombe's Acura or his right foot will be cut off! Nice Drive!!

More later!
 
Congratulations to Tim Mullan on an awesome weekend sweep! Tim and Tom had some great racing and the were flying. ( in the low 18'S!) It was really a shame that the same old ITS cars keep getting in the way. I wont say to much since I want to try and be polite... bit damn they really did completely destroy one of the best races for 1st in ITB.

Congratulations to my buddy Tim as well getting into the 19's this weekend. Interesting data point was that on roughly the same age tires he was .3 seconds faster with 225 tires than with a 205. (Both hossiers not exactly sure on the number of heat cycles but if I guessed the 225 set was definitely worse.)

Great weather for fast racing and a great end to the year at NHMS!

STEPHEN

PS: the rumor is that IF you take the oval flatout (in ITB) you are almost a complete second faster! Wow... I still haven't manned up to do it but it was amazing how much faster Tim, Tim, and Tom were than almost any other ITR or ITS car was in turn 1 and 2!
 
StephenB said:
It was really a shame that the same old ITS cars keep getting in the way. I wont say to much since I want to try and be polite... bit damn they really did completely destroy one of the best races for 1st in ITB.
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Something something-did anyone talk to them?- something something.

If yes, ...then maybe being polite isn't appropriate anymore.
If no....then....

[soapbox]
If you're in ITS or ITR, and you're around and in the ITB cars battling for trophies, or you even think you might be, either get your shit together and start driving, or back off and let them race. Enough of this crap. [/soapbox]
(if you're a rookie, and you're new to the game, fair enough, but I've seen this from guys what have a decade under their belts. not cool)
 
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